Session Start: Thu Mar 21 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[00:10]<@BC_Programming> wb
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[09:09]<@Mulreay> Convince people youre the Wizard of Oz by shouting at them from behind a curtain.
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> heh
[09:55]<@BC_Programming> ahh well this is great
[09:56]<@BC_Programming> I screwed up my keyboard configuration and I have to type ' twice for it to appear, and when it does it appears twice
[09:59]<@jacky> that could be frustrating
[09:59]<@jacky> that could be frustrating
[10:00]<@jacky> can you fix it?
[10:00]<@jacky> can you fix it?
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> well I just restarted all the applications that were doing it and they work... was probably from when I swapped to the US-International layout to test something
[10:01]<@jacky> heh
[10:01]<@jacky> I couldn't resist.
[10:10]<@Mulreay> Sounds like a pickle
[10:10]<@Mulreay> you have yourself in
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> No matter I can always enjoy a dish fit for a king
[10:12]<@Mulreay> Prawns of a certain variety?
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> fyi: I'm going to lose my internet connection sometime in the next hour when we get switched to the new provider
[10:13]<@Mulreay> Hope it all goes as well as they advertise
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> Cable to ADSL- at least I think it's ADSL
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> I imagine I'll at least have better upload speeds... uploads on cable are awful
[10:15]<@Mulreay> I only get 4.5 upload
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> I got like 512kbps upload when I checked last
[10:16]<@Mulreay> 110 down 4.5 up.. doesn't really give me any issues with that up speed
[10:17]<@BC_Programming> 13 down 512kbps up when I checked yesterday
[10:17]<@BC_Programming> though it fluctuates madly
[10:17]<+camerongray> I'm on ADSL - 16mbps down, 1 up
[10:17]<@BC_Programming> still better
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> Also, they might not even cut us off randomly for no good reason
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> then when you call... they say "well they should be working"
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> yes, thank you sherlock
[10:18]<@Mulreay> Always a bonus
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> or "well they should be working" "Ahh, so we do agree on something!"
[10:19]<@Mulreay> I like the 'you have to unplug the hub before you unpug the cable from tyhe computer' 'why?' 'Erm you have to' In other words thats what it says on my screen
[10:21]<@BC_Programming> that is 1st-line tech support for you
[10:21]<@Mulreay> indeed
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> I guess we will discover their competence from the peep they send to hook it up
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> for some reason I'm reminded of what I said to a very argumentative Open Source zealot
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> "perhaps you should get off that soapbox and start using it's contents"
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[10:27]<@Mulreay> heh
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[10:49]<@BC_Programming> 4001 unread E-mails
[10:56]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:24]<@Mulreay> Hit 150,000 videos views whoop de whoop
[11:26]<@Mulreay> Only 16 shy of 200 subs
[11:29]<@BC_Programming> I've repented on my ocelot hating ways
[11:30]<@BC_Programming> though they are a massive pain to tame... I was running around with a raw fish for 20 minutes trying to tame an ocelot
[11:30]<@Mulreay> lol
[11:30]<@BC_Programming> I made a room for my cats in one corner of my base
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> I only have one cat at the moment but that's no reason not to pamper him
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> and once I get another I can start a cat farm
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> should probably get wolves too
[11:31]<@BC_Programming> at least I have lots of raw flesh for wolves... fishing is a giant pain
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[11:50]<@BC_Programming> brb
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[11:58]<@BC_Programming> my hostmask has morphed
[11:58]<@Mulreay> wb How did you get on
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> literally 10 seconds of downtime
[11:59]<@Mulreay> cool
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> unplug from router connect to theirs
[12:00]<@Mulreay> Have you tested the speed?
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah the guy suggested it, 24 mbps down, 2.87 mbps up
[12:00]<@Mulreay> cool
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> faster in both ways
[12:02]<@Mulreay> 'That game company' is now by far my favourite game company
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> which game company do tell
[12:03]<@Mulreay> You know, that game comapny
[12:05]<@Mulreay> Anyway I started with 'Flow' then played 'Journey' and just played 'Flower' such great games
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> wait that is their actual name? "That game company"?
[12:13]<@Mulreay> yup hence the 'that game company'
[12:13]<@BC_Programming> if so they named themselves evilly, like naming a dog "askem"
[12:38]<+Tux2> lol, or naming a dog "guess"
[12:38]<@BC_Programming> haha
[12:38]<+Tux2> "What's your dog's name?" "Guess"
[12:39]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[12:45]<@Mulreay> hey Tux2
[12:47]<+Tux2> Hey Mulreay
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> I made a speed comparison from the image I made a few hours ago compared to now
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/comparespeed.png
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> better all around :D
[12:54]<@Mulreay> sweet
[12:54]<@BC_Programming> when I was running the speedtest the guy was like "yeah you'll probably get the same speed, but it will be steady, and you're not sharing"
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> then it was like twice that
[12:55]<@BC_Programming> and he was like "this is why I'm not a salesman"
[12:56]<@BC_Programming> hey I just thought of something, we still technically have shaw service for this month, so I wonder if I could still use the Cable modem at the same time until them
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> HAHA DUAL INTERNET
[12:57]<@BC_Programming> I wonder if I could install a PCI network card and actually use a dual connection
[12:59]<@BC_Programming> that sounds like work though
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: not sure if you caught it in the DCC chat but I did get that app working my end for authenticating
[13:23]<@BC_Programming> I ended up using an approach which basically just read the page, took a special cookie from the header and then sent a POST request to login
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> lol the shaw internet does still work
[13:35]<@BC_Programming> now the question is how do I exploit this
[13:48]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: I did see it, and I've already sent it to my friend to make sure it works
[13:48]<+Tux2> Payment shouldn't be too far off
[13:49]<@BC_Programming> ok, just want to make sure it works for what it's needed for
[13:49]<@BC_Programming> do you think they would be against me putting it on my site or on github?
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[15:02]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: you there?
[15:02]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: http://paste.yu8.me/?788a5a54608287f1#68P9up4fio+jkxDMI285X3zO3yYgoK1NXfMJcIqIJfU=
[15:03]<@BC_Programming> run cmd /c mkdir %APPDATA%\SPAuth
[15:05]<+Tux2> lol, he just needs to make the spauth directory huh?
[15:05]<+Tux2> I'll forward that on to him.
[15:05]<@BC_Programming> that is my first guess
[15:05]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to see if I get the same result if I don't have the dir but that's what I'm thinking
[15:07]<@BC_Programming> Well I do get a DirectoryNotFoundException when I do
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> it also needs an INI file to be there to begin with otherwise it has nothing to work with
[15:08]<@BC_Programming> I suppose I could add a dialog for that info
[15:11]<@BC_Programming> It has some other prerequisites... noted in the readme.txt, Identity framework and WCF or something
[15:15]<+Tux2> Yeah
[15:15]<+Tux2> Mind making the program create the directory and file for them?
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> ok
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> it can't populate it with useful data though, it will just be the default sample stuff
[15:16]<+Tux2> If it could pop up a dialog asking for the data on first run that would be cool
[15:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah that's the direction I was going
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[15:47]<@BC_Programming> this is retarded
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> File not found exception trying to save a friggin file
[15:48]<@BC_Programming> That's why I'm trying to save it grr
[15:49]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> so I change the code
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> now it's complaining the file already exists
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> wtf
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> I'm ready to throw my mouse across the room
[15:51]<+Tux2> Heh, now you know why I program in java
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> ?
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> what does that have to do with it
[15:52]<+Tux2> It's easy making a file in java
[15:52]<+Tux2> And it's also too easy to overwrite a file as well
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> it's easy in C#, I was using Truncate and then I tried CreateNew
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> should have used Create, which uses Truncate if it exists and creates a new one if it doesn't
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> exactly the same File creation options as Java
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> now the issue is it's not saving which is because I'm not actually setting the values to the INI class before saving them
[15:59]<@BC_Programming> aaaand now I have to refactor the entire project
[16:03]<+Tux2> Heh, sounds like fun...
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> well see for some reason I had it in my head that it was simple the change and edit INI files, so it doesn't persist any of the variables to the INIFile again after initialization
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> I'm just refactoring it so the private variables are properties that read directly from the INI class
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[16:17]<+Tux2> Ah, gotcha
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> well I got it working at least
[16:18]<@BC_Programming> it doesn't seem to prompt when it starts, but it does have a Settings Menu option that can be used to change it
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> kk
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> same URL
[16:27]<@BC_Programming> (uploaded)
[16:28]<@BC_Programming> mainly annoyed that all the issues seemed to revolve around my INI file class which is supposed to be easy to use :/
[16:45]<@Mulreay> Surrounded by updatesd
[16:45]<@Mulreay> updates*
[17:02]<+Tux2> heh
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[19:53]<@BC_Programming> oh dear now I've done it
[20:13]<+Tux2> Hey BC_Programming: I've got another one for you: Error: An Error occured attemtped to reauthenticate the Sharepoint Server: Could not load file or assembly 'Microsoft.IdentityModel, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' or one of its depencencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
[20:14]<+Tux2> Which library did he forget to install?
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> could always try installing the Windows Identity framework as outlined in the readme
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> Windows Identity Framework
[20:14]<@BC_Programming> ther are URLs in the readme also :)
[20:14]<+Tux2> lol, I know...
[20:14]<+Tux2> I bet this guy is used to self-installers that just work.
[20:16]<@BC_Programming> indeed... I wouldn't know where to start to make an installer for this, not sure if the WIF and WCF are even redistributable
[20:16]<+Tux2> lol, yeah
[20:17]<+Tux2> Of course it's my friend's boss that is trying to get this application to work, not my friend.
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> oh well that's good :/
[20:17]<+Tux2> Of course it was my friend that suggested I send the beta to his boss as well.
[20:17]<@BC_Programming> heh
[20:35]<+Tux2> lol BC_Programming here's what he emailed back: Read Me? Are you kidding? I’m a stupid user. Let me try that. I’ll get back to you.
[20:35]<@BC_Programming> lol
[20:36]<+Tux2> What's funny is that I specifically mentioned that "all required dependencies that need to be installed are in the readme.txt file." in the first email.
[20:36]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[20:37]<+Tux2> Being a plugin dev for so long teaches you to cover your bases
[20:37]<@BC_Programming> I can imagine
[20:38]<+Tux2> On that note: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiinv/tickets/144-plugin-dont-work/
[20:38]<@BC_Programming> haha!
[20:39]<@BC_Programming> I realized myself that since I was able to make my plugin work without any NMS stuff, I actually don't need to update it for 1.5
[20:39]<+Tux2> lol, yup
[20:39]<+Tux2> People were all like "nice! Now update multiinv" on my TuxTwoLib page
[20:40]<+Tux2> lol, I should release a new download for 1.5...
[20:40]<+Tux2> inflate download count to get more reward points.
[20:41]<@BC_Programming> only feature I added for 1.5 was about half the mobs having randomized names like "Skeleton Tom of Insolence" or "Zombie Richard of Vigilance"
[20:41]<+Tux2> tee hee
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> obvious ideas include using scoreboards or something for the PvP mode
[20:42]<@BC_Programming> or really in both modes, come to think of it
[20:44]<+Tux2> yeah
[20:44]<@BC_Programming> I've been procrastinating on finishing the Team-based stuff, too...
[20:49]<+Tux2> lol
[21:01]<+Tux2> Oh, BC_Programming, want to hear something funny?
[21:02]<@BC_Programming> I'm not sure!
[21:02]<@BC_Programming> :P
[21:03]<+Tux2> rofl
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[21:03]<+Tux2> So, I made an authentication plugin for an offline minecraft server. It's basically the best of the best, but it's a private plugin.
[21:04]<@BC_Programming> is this the one that a guy got to be changed and then asked you for help with it
[21:04]<+Tux2> Well, someone PMed me on skype with this: "Hello, I am friends with Lucas @ lolikillyaaa, I have my server, and they recommended you for a coder that I need for a certain plugin. The plugin you made for them iplock. I need that. How much would you charge for that?"
[21:04]<@BC_Programming> nice
[21:04]<+Tux2> lol, yes BC_Programming, same guy
[21:05]<+Tux2> So, I was all, "Hmm... seems fishy," so I contacted loli
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[21:06]<+Tux2> His response, after telling him who wanted it: "that <censored>? (sorry for the language) all he does it try to steal my ideas"
[21:06]<@BC_Programming> mystery solved!
[21:06]<+Tux2> lol, yeah
[21:06]<@BC_Programming> and so you said "$1K"
[21:06]<+Tux2> lol, nah, I was nice
[21:07]<+Tux2> Joshua Reetz (Tux2): I can give you a non-transferrable license to use the plugin on your server forever with hosting for the mysql database and the web page for an entire year for $500.
[21:08]<+Tux2> This is his response: http://paste.yu8.me/?a15018c4c933a688#b+W5kqPK272OytpB+mSXh6hOwezDId+xrVFGTrJ9W+4=
[21:09]<@BC_Programming> lol
[21:09]<+Tux2> He's not getting his hands on my coding any time soon ;)
[21:10]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[21:10]<+Tux2> Any imitation is just that, a poor imitation of the real thing
[21:10]<+Tux2> I'm sure he'll be able to find some kid willing to do it cheap
[21:11]<@BC_Programming> ahh somebody has unleashed my full wrath... a post on the MC forums says that "nobody older than 15 plays with the default textures"
[21:11]<+Tux2> lol...
[21:11]<+Tux2> give me a link!
[21:12]<@BC_Programming> well my quotation marks are ill-placed, that was paraphrasing
[21:12]<@BC_Programming> they actually said "Only children can play 16x textures"
[21:12]<+Tux2> ha ha
[21:12]<@BC_Programming> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1736893-151-wasnt-even-worth-the-hassle/
[21:13]<lucifer> <- 16 and uses default textures cause I don't like the modded ones
[21:13]<@BC_Programming> I installed a 512x texture pack
[21:13]<@BC_Programming> it took almost 15 minutes just to start MC...
[21:15]<+Tux2> lol, wow
[21:16]<lucifer> That would be around an hour to hour and a half on my end if it didn't crash
[21:17]<+Tux2> Send it over to me... I'm actually a bit curious
[21:18]<+Tux2> brb
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[21:20]<+Tux2> back
[21:21]<@BC_Programming> it was Sphax 512x, the texture pack
[21:21]<+Tux2> link?
[21:21]<@BC_Programming> http://bdcraft.net/download-bdcraft-texturepacks
[21:21]<@BC_Programming> I don't know how it stacks up against other TPs but it seems to be popular
[21:22]<+Tux2> lol, I'm just going to use it as a benchmark
[21:27]<+Tux2> ROFL! Out of memory error
[21:28]<@BC_Programming> yeah it crashes unless you use a custom command line
[21:30]<+Tux2> lol, my minecraft opens up in 1.5 minutes
[21:30]<@BC_Programming> yeah but try starting a game
[21:32]<+Tux2> lol, 1fps
[21:33]<@BC_Programming> but aren't you glad you can walk right up to a block and still not make out any pixels? Because apparently that is important... nevermind that the textures by themselves consume something like 512MB total
[21:35]<+Tux2> lol, right?
[21:35]<+Tux2> 512 is just overkill
[21:36]<+Tux2> a full block doesn't even take 512 pixels on my screen
[21:36]<@BC_Programming> yeah.. it just ends up clogging up the texel pipeline
[21:45]<+Tux2> lol, the 256 texture pack I get 4 fps
[21:45]<@BC_Programming> that's an improvement
[21:47]<+Tux2> going to try 128x
[21:48]<+Tux2> 15fps
[21:50]<@BC_Programming> in 1.5.1 right?
[21:50]<+Craig> ?
[21:53]<+Tux2> yes
[21:53]<+Tux2> 1.5.1
[21:53]<+Tux2> With default textures I get 60-80fps
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